Polyrhythmic Frontiers: Eurhythmics Games for the Classroom
With Brian Sweigart, Cleveland Institute of Music
Recorded June 6, 2024
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Polyrhythm has long been a core concept in eurhythmics. In this presentation, Brian Sweigart explores why it is beneficial for students to study polyrhythm through movement, from simply learning the rhythm to utilizing polyrhythmic skills in the frontier of contemporary music.
I'm talking about poly rhythm today.
Um, and poly rhythm is a huge part of what I do in my, uh,
classes at the Cleveland Institute of Music.
Um, and those classes are geared very heavily towards
classical music performance majors.
So it's a very specific context for
how I am approaching poly pool.
Um, we could talk a lot,
but talking isn't going to get us where we need to go.
Alright? So I'm gonna play and you guys are gonna walk
and we're gonna walk counterclockwise just
because we're gonna have some times
where we're not walking counterclockwise.
And so it helps
to make sure we're all going in the same direction.
Okay? We just saw the kids do it so we can do it.
Who wants to stay in the circle probation right now? Yes.
We,
I, there
just
now you're going walk
the Yes,
the,
okay, go ahead.
What The change in the piano,
this frame of,
now one of the things I find
that helps when we start adding some flaps
to do the poly rhythm is that they're quiet, okay?
No poly rhythm is ever aided by clapping louder, I promise.
Okay? So very quietly, very quiet.
The,
and
So three against four
or against three poly, we've done this before.
So again, I love Hollywood.
We do it so much in my class,
and it was a part of my training
as a EU rhythmic teacher in my group, mixed classes.
So the genesis of this presentation is not
how I teach poly rhythm,
but it's something that happened
to me when a student asked a question.
So I'm teaching my peed been pedagogy class.
We're talking about poly rhythm.
And one of my pedagogy students
who was not a traditional college age student,
but was an end of career middle school band director
who was going back to get a doctorate
and very admirable to do at the end of the career instead
of retiring or going back into school.
And he says to me, why do we spend
so much time studying H rhythm?
The music that I did doesn't have that many h anymore.
And at the time I probably didn't say anything as eloquent
as I would have liked,
because it's terrific.
Whatcha talking about? It's cool.
Uh, but that's, we have
to actually think about why you spent so much time now.
Um, so we're gonna take it from the very most
basic level of why we do poly.
And we're gonna try and go deeper and deeper
and find all of the musical goodness
that exists in studying poly so that it can make stronger,
more expressive, more responsive musicians.
All right? Poly is a tool if we use it correctly.
So the first reason you poly
that slides, they might help, they might not.
It's PowerPoint.
The other problem is it very seldom has power
or a point we're gonna try.
Alright? So the first reason, uh, we need to do this
is we're gonna learn the rhythm to perform the rhythm.
And this is the most basic thing that, that we do.
Um, where, okay, we need to learn three against four
or four against three because it is in your repertoire.
You must be prepared to perform it.
And for some students, that's enough.
That's all that, that's all they want is like, okay,
if I'm doing my show of fantasy impromptu,
how do I make sure my fingers are down at the right time?
Okay? Or if I'm playing the Charles sign held,
or if I'm playing the Stravinsky writing spring
or the rebel goes up, I mean the list of repertoire goes on.
If I'm playing in the pit for Hamilton,
or if I have to perform
the backpack song from Dorothy Explorer,
how do I do four's three?
Okay? It is everywhere. It's in the music.
And I think that that, that in and of itself works, right?
Um, there is a part of this that we have to,
uh, well, I hope to acknowledge the fact that students
who are prepared to play poly, just on the surface,
are better prepared for the music that is
of now and of the future.
Um, as classical music
diversifies and becomes more reliant on the music
of the African dacian, it will be more poly written.
So the study of poly rhythm in order
to perform the poly rhythm is
also looking forward, okay?
It's, it's seeing where classical music is going to go.
And I want my students to be prepared to do that, right?
But most of the time they're playing music
that doesn't necessarily have poly rhythms.
So we have to get, go a little bit deeper in order
to aid our discussion.
I just, there's some notation.
Now, this notation is not the only way
to look at three against four, four against three.
This is a way and I think is the simple best way.
When I was playing in four, I was thinking in 12 eight
and I was giving you do,
and when you were clapping the three against it,
you were clapping half.
And when I switched, I switched into three, two,
where you were walking three half notes
and then clapping four dotted quarter notes against it.
Alright? So key rhythms, um,
they positive rhythms in the middle or result in rhythms.
Sometimes the, the word that I used.
Um, and it just helps us make sure that we have the, the,
we're all on the same page.
You might look at this and say, but I want three or
or four against three in three four,
which means my three against four is in 1216.
That's fine, that's fine. Okay?
We could also talk about it as a,
but this is going to help us as we move on
through the exercises to make sure
that we're all working on the same thing too.
Okay? So now the next
reason we learn is vertical alignment.
At some point in your development as a musician,
it was a new thing to say that this happens
and this happens and they're aligned at to some degree.
Um, polyrhythms gives so many opportunities to explore
that vertical alignment relationship
between no values, right?
In order to explore vertical alignment,
you need to be in a trio.
A trio that's three people go
trio.
Okay? So in your, if you have a quartet,
that's fine, you just have to have a standpoint, okay?
So you guys will double it stand.
So this exercise, uh, I call that we're going
to be doing, um, I like space a lot.
Just got a new puppy. His name is Kepler, all about, uh,
planetary laws of planetary orbit.
Anyway, um, so here's what we are going do.
This, this just is there to help you so
that like in the middle of it with your like, wait, what,
what direction I supposed to go again, this will help.
Um, so we're going to do four
or three against four, which means we're gonna have
to four dotted quarter notes in our, and we're,
and we'll build from there.
You need to be shoulder to shoulder with your
line and you're gonna walk
around the circle counterclockwise as we do it.
So this is great.
Just turn the other way and you'll be good right now
your feet, your feet will always be the pulse
of our four dotted quarter nodes, okay?
So your feet will always be in alignment
with everybody else in your group.
You should be walking together,
let there be no one left behind.
Now the person who is closest to the inside of the circle
does the very difficult for against for,
alright, Hey, citizens are hard, okay?
But you've got this going. Now
the person who's at the center of the group, the middle,
you've got well against four,
those are our subdivisions.
Oh, and then the person on the outside just has
to do the three against you, okay?
Now the way I want you to think about your line is
that your line is a peanut butter sandwich.
Alright? If you have a peanut butter sandwich
with no peanut butter, it falls apart.
Okay? I know this from experience when I've packed my
children's lunch and just thrown bread in
instead of making exam.
Okay? Yeah, they were real happy about that
and then I did it again Anyway, so the 12 person
is the peanut butter that holds the sandwich together
of our poly rhythm.
All right? The four
and the three need to line up with the 12, right?
This is our vertical alignment, right?
So you're gonna walk me hands, it's gonna be great.
And then I'm gonna say switch.
And when I say switch, the person who is
on the, in doing the four next four walks behind the roof
and all of the rhythm stretch that
lie down, okay?
What could possibly go wrong? Here we go.
So when we, it's almost like there's not enough time
to get where you need to go, which means
you never stop moving.
Alright? Remember the space thing,
orbit and rotation.
Okay? So you're thinking
1, 2, 3, 2, 3.
And your group is making a circle
as it makes a circle, okay?
Continuous slowing movement while you keep track
of your vertical alignment.
Okay? Here we go.
Go ahead and just get established. And
it would be so interesting to see it from above
to see the dots move.
That's great. So that's one way that we can really reinforce
that vertical alignment.
Alright? What we're doing here right now is figuring out
placement of eight nodes in compound meters, right?
Which we've all been there where we're trying
to teach placement.
This is one way to reinforce where, um,
each articulation occurs on the pulse
because poly rhythm gives you an articulation on
every division of the pulse.
All polyrhythms have articulation
and every rhythm of the pulse,
if we put them into time signatures, like,
like I have, okay?
There's another way that we put in vertical alignment.
And for this, I need your trio to join another trio so
that we have a sex tech.
If there's one trio left over, just hold up.
But I think, I think we're we're good.
Very nice is
what I call tables.
We don't need this
because you guys are the right number of people.
So awesome. I,
so in your sense text, you're going to pretend
that you're sitting at the table
for dinner, you're standing, right?
You're at a table, one person is going
to be at the head of the table.
There will be two people on one side of the table
and three people on the other.
Okay? Go ahead and get yourself set up with that. Okay?
Now it sort of looks like we might be getting set up
to rumble here a little bit.
Um, and we do say that it is three against four
and four against three.
So it sort of has the, you know, a connotation
where there could be some conflict there.
Um, I've had students ask me,
why can't it be three with four?
That's so sweet.
So maybe it, maybe it should be,
we started here looking anyway.
So here's what's gonna happen.
The person who's head at the head of the table,
you're our downbeat, okay?
Congratulations you guys. Absolutely.
So this is a saving still clapping, guys,
what did you call the downbeat?
So you guys are the four,
you guys are alright Now shall we switch
it to four against three?
We're just doing three against four and 12.
Eight, four against three and three two. Why?
So why don't we get established with the three?
So it will be 1, 2, 3, 1.
You just do two, three, yep.
1, 2, 3.
You see how that is? Just do your part
good.
No, no, no, no, no. So you had some good exploration
moments there, right?
But you see those, that orange.
That orange, which protein?
So you're going through around, can I ask a question?
Yes. Did you want,
so everybody takes only one clap, is that correct?
Yes. Okay. Yes. Alright.
And downs to both groups,
not so
go through two repetitions
and then in time everybody moves one position.
Counter clock every, every,
but don't drop any beats.
Don't get me set. Move time.
Alright, go ahead and work amongst yourselves.
We'll see how messy it can be. Don't
now at this point really clear
where the table is, okay?
Having the clarity of position really helps this exercise be
you have to try
every measure ahead.
Alignment really helps us see the relationship of the pulse
and that cross against the pulse, okay?
Um, it also requires a huge amount of like
personal accountability for making sure you know
where the rhythm is.
Okay? So, so when I'm working with students, people
who can do the whole rhythm by themselves perfectly fine.
All of a sudden when they only have one stinking part of it,
it becomes so much more challenging.
I wonder if our threes are stronger than four. Okay?
I wonder if that's because we're starting out a three.
If we started out a four
and would be, I get our fours would be solid.
It's all perspective, right?
There's a perspective issue there.
Um, if I sat down
and play the three, you might actually switch it out.
Good.
Three, I play your
Right, like
I like to embrace chaos just a little bit sometimes, okay?
But you can embrace, okay?
So those are two ways to work on our vertical alignment.
The next thing is horizontal sensations.
Alright? Um, if you're teaching poly rhythm
or you're learning poly and you're only thinking about
vertical alignment, you're missing the point
of why we have poly.
Poly is a different way to move through the space, alright?
And composers exploit that poly rhythm in order to mess
with the sensation of the music moving around.
Alright? So you need to have part,
you can feel free to break out if you
just go first next to you.
So with your partner, we're going
to explore the space in various different ways.
We're gonna go back to being in 12 eight.
So four is going to be our frame of reference.
We're going to clap with three hack notes against our four
dotted quarter notes.
When we, sometimes we might not be
first no hands, one of you
will be walking the dotted quarters, one
of you will be walking the half max.
You can walk anywhere on the stage.
I don't need my pretty circle,
but I need you to take the same amount of space
regardless of which note value you staff in.
Now we have to think about, oh, this person's taller than me
so I have to take bigger or whatever.
That's fine. Just be aware of the space. Alright?
When I say switch,
you switch which rhythm you're doing, okay?
Think about how this moves you fold.
You want us to be side by side, right? Yes. By side.
The
I love,
good.
Now face your partner, you're not walking
Anymore, You're gonna explore the
space in a different way.
One of you going to clap the other going clap,
but I want you to build up.
So the measure build up from the bottom.
Now around,
you're gonna mark in the space in front of you.
The most common way we do this is conduct.
So one person can conduct or the other person conduct three.
If you don't just mark the space in front
of,
in one hand.
And what I tell is, is I say, well, it's career prep.
If you need to, you can
work at the works for you.
So in a student studying poly rhythm learns the rhythm,
understands the vertical relationship
and the horizontal sensations you're doing pretty good.
Alright? The, the student has
had some quality musical experiences,
but there's more that can be gotten from us
and we want to keep getting deeper and deeper.
So the next level
of learning is plural attentions.
Plural what? Plural Attentions. Okay.
Your ability to pay attention to lots
of different things at the same time, right?
Poly rhythm in and of itself is plural, right?
We've got these two opposing, or not opposing,
but coexist rhythms, alright?
Um, that you're, that you're paying attention to.
But we're gonna do an exercise now where we're going to try
and pay attention to both the horizontal
and the vertical at the same time.
And if you thought the tables were chaotic,
this is really gonna get you going.
You need to be in a trio. Trio.
It can be a different trio than your other trio.
If, if you want to switch it up, go ahead, get it in tree.
1, 2, 3, go. 1, 2, 3.
I'd like this Next exercise
is called a machine,
which doesn't sound very eurythmic istic,
but we're gonna, we're gonna do something called machines.
And the reason for this is our polys are going
to interlock like the gears in a
machine and it will create
this sense of forward movement while you're paying attention
to the vertical placement.
The easiest way to explain this is that you're going
to be doing a poly rhythm in your group in canon
with each other, displaced by one beat.
But if you say all of those things
together, that can happen.
That can cause a express reaction, um, in some people.
And I don't want them to be.
So I, I, I did some analysis.
This is sort of what look for one
we'll be performing the first one
where you've got your four dock quarters against the three
half, the second person is going
to do the same exact thing, but starting on the two
and the third person's going the same t thing,
but starting on the three.
But I look at that and I'm like, what?
This one looks a little bit better.
This one satisfies the percussionist in me, okay?
Because I can see where the line is.
So if we're performing this correctly,
you will never be clapping with anybody in your group
that you'll fill in all of the subdivisions.
Now, in order to make this work really nicely,
you have to be stepping the pulse, okay?
You're gonna be stepping in place.
I don't want you to have
to worry about long on the stage just to happen.
Step in your pulse and your feet should always be together.
If your group has a pulse, you have a chance,
but if you have no pulse, you are dead.
So please have a pulse right?
When you're getting the set up, it can be a little like
who starts first, where we go?
Um, mess around, see if you can get it to work.
I'm gonna float around and see if we can get,
are we all the same thing
but just starting at a different time?
Yes. And what are we clapping? Four against? Three.
Okay. Right. Clapping. Four. And we're stepping three.
Stepping three together.
Should I do it with the group to Yes.
Will you guys
group extra practice?
Yeah. So give the three going your feet. Two, three.
So they've got the, the three going their feet.
And the way I count this off when I'm performing it is I
give two measures just to get,
make sure everybody knows when we're starting.
And the first time I might think I might say like this
1, 2, 3,
I say 1, 1 1
and I'm handing that person a different down.
So the burden of figuring out
what the rhythm is is not actually on any individual.
We're still just doing the four against. Okay, let's try it.
Three. 1, 1, 1.
Okay, that was good. That was good.
We were like, where you, you heard where the notes were like
where they locked in a little, let's try it.
That's
that was okay.
Should be gonna be messy and that's okay.
Messy
machine like that.
Yeah. If you have the
different elements possibly attention to right
now for today, that is the hardest group exercise.
But the next area we're going to is the area where
no one has gone before.
This is our poly frontier.
So if I can get Stacy with you, not like,
uh, not the musk space,
but more so
in any amount of time, there are an infinite number
of ways to divide that time.
And if you want to think about cosmology,
that time is being divided in all
of those infinite ways at the same time.
Simultaneous. Okay?
If we think about the infinite,
it gets a little problematic.
So, so we're just going to think about
how we can have simultaneous divisions of time into threes
and floors, which is what we've been doing.
But instead think about note values or placement.
We're going to think about it as simultaneous occurring
tempos where we are really experiencing
temporal relationships.
If I were to, if somebody were to say,
why do you think composers use polyrhythms?
Who've got 30 seconds to go, I would say
to imply multiple tempos at the same time.
Like I think that would be my general causality.
It's an assumption. And we never try
to assume why composers make any decisions.
'cause that's a dark, dark road to go down.
But, um, these temple relationships are I think one of the
most valuable things that we can experience.
And also one that I don't necessarily expect my students
to ever understand that they're experiencing
it at that time.
Because if you think about the infinite, it's problematic.
Okay? So you may have seen in music something
that looks like this, okay?
Sometimes we call this the metric population where we use
a note value to establish a rate of movement
and then change what
that node value is while keeping the rate of movement
the same, right?
I like to call it temporal modulation
because we're not necessarily changing leader,
we're changing temporal, right?
And so this is going to be a temporal modulation exercise.
If we're doing, we're in our four
and we're doing R three, gets the four,
and then this becomes
the four and all of a sudden being slowed down.
Okay? So we're gonna, we're gonna mess around with that.
If I move this way, it's a reduction temp by 25%.
Does that matter? 25%? No.
I hope you never see music that says slow down 25%.
But like I said, if we go the other way,
if we go the other way, it's an increase of 33%.
Alright? So we'll get slower and, and faster.
Now stop thinking about this. Don't pay attention to this.
Just listen and go. Okay, here we go.
So we'll start, here's your core
In your hands.
That's, but also you
Can About
Now Even slower
One
Guys. Nice guys, thanks
for experimenting.
Do how
and your perspective, thanks
for being rhythm nerds with me guys.
Ooh, are there any questions or thoughts?
I would've guessed getting slower would be easier,
but I found slower to be way harder.
Slow is almost always hard.
Yeah, I, I, I, um, the way we move through space,
I love slow movement,
but it requires so much more effort
to do with integrity and placement.
So I'm, I'm not surprised with that.
The other, uh, thing that happens
is when we were getting faster,
we were dividing our beats into fours, which tends
to be more comfortable than when we were getting slower.
We were dividing our beats into threes, which is
just a little bit more unnatural to us.
So my slides are in the,
is gonna be sending out in case like you want
to look at the diagrams and try and adapt
and use any of the, of the materials.
And if you have any questions, my email
addresses also in the slides.
I'm, I'm happy to correspond with you
and help you figure out how to continue finding new ways
of thanks.
So.
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